China's Rise and Stability
Comparison of Chinese and American Models
Technological Mastery and Economic Strategy
Challenges and Critiques of the Chinese Model
U.S. Economic and Military Position
Future Scenarios
This discussion highlights the complexities of the U.S.-China relationship and the implications for global power dynamics in the coming decades.
0:00 The game goes to he who outlasts the adversary, and what the Chinese want to do is to just keep things really, really stable and just wait for the Western countries to collapse. Just how powerful has China really become? What does China’s leadership really want? If America is in a new Cold War, who’s going to win? My guest today thinks that the U.S. has a lot to learn from
0:33 Chinese success, if we want to remain the world’s leading power. Dan Wang is a research fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution and the author of the new book, "Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future." Dan Wang, welcome to Interesting Times. Thank you for having me, Ross. You’re very welcome. Thank you for being here. So we’re going to talk about China and the Chinese model and how it compares to the American model - strengths, weaknesses, conflict, coexistence.
1:08 But I want to start by talking about your own experience. You were in China from about 2017 through about 2023. Correct right. And you were a technology analyst. You were a writer. You wrote an annual letter about what you saw in China, and you traveled a lot. So I want you to start by telling us a story or giving us an image or a place that you visited or saw or experienced that you looked at, and it made you think, "the 21st century is going to belong to China." Here’s a vision from 2021.
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